In a way you don't care for.Look at your Sun & Saturn since that represents the father as well, with the way you feel look for afflictions. You will also find you share many of the same values, interests, and likes. Hes not cold at all. A example of how the hidden fears thing of this house works is that we often will have a bad dream about something we are afraid of happening or suppressed anger, and and fear can bring us nightmares. There is always a lesson and something you will learn and realize that the relationship was fated for some purpose bigger than you origionally thought but not meant to live out in this lifetime. It means he has an inner conflict going on that is psychological in nature. I had a very strong, sexy, DARK, dangerous and tumoultous tete-a-tete with a Sun/Gem Moon/Sag guy which put my Venus/Sag SMACK in his 12th House! The relationship functions mostly on an unconscious level and there is often much misunderstood or misinterpreted if you arent very clear in your speaking with each other. In romantic and marital relationships, the purely material interest of the partners often comes to the fore. But as his Sun is caught up in my 12th House, he now and then tries to make an appearance. In synastry when people impact this house, there is often sort of confessional that occurs. so the judging becomes like, omg i am judging myself kind of thing lol I beleive this is mostly for those aware and can face truth/accept themselves however greatly flawed and love themselves. He could communicate with my soul because he could explained my secret desire without boundaries.I had erotic dreams about him a lot. But what made it all so compelling, is that I REMEMBERED HIM FROM TWO PAST LIVES when we were mates!! I have something of a business relationship with someone. be on the look out for that cute Pisces man with an Air Moon and a Fire Mars. Too late I realized that I loved him unconditionally. Its like the sayingif you Love someone let them go. Some are just hung up on their exes. Right up to this year I have still been battling my feelings in re: to the guy I was totally swept away by. You have a tendency to fall in love with people who re not available, and . Please also note that having Venus in the 12th means very little without a lot of context. Well you can imagine how the proposition to be his off-time mistress set with my Midhaven in Aries. Ive always been madly in love with him, andhe claims he isntbut his actions speak otherwise. Hi, Elsa!! Hi,this is illuminating reading for me :)Recently one man has very special influence on me and his Sun, Mars, Moon and Mercury (although Mercury is very close to my Asc) fall in my 12th house.He just gets me like no one does, or ever did. Sigh.. It means he needs to work through then and the only way to do this is to, effectively lie to you, so he can havevtgecspace he needs to work through his issues. Venus is the planet of love, beauty, romance, values, and finances. Thinking this would help. Years ago i was dating someone whom i had the same aspect with. I think anyway 12th house is involved. The 12th house usually involves secret love affairs and unrequited love. I could feel something so deep. We face the same situation when someone touch our 12th house. From the start. Take the love goggles off. I have found myself on a couple of occasions asking, "Why in the world did I just tell him that?" I keep reading stuff about 12th house and its scary I already have issues but like I said my natal chart is already filled with 12 house placements like sun, mercury, Jupiter, and something else and now my relationship?! The moon represents our instincts, our moods, our feelings and emotional responses along with how we nurture, feel nurtured, the wo North and South node connections in synastry are very powerful and often fated. 12th house is not the greatest for expression i am afraid. Venus in the Houses in Synastry. Venus is the Roman counterpart to the Greek goddess, Aphrodite, and she is the female counterpart of the Roman god of war and conquest, Mars, who is also the namesake of one of the big eight planets in astrology. I even took a sleep aid and could not sleep. Each person shares secrets, and even unconsciously. I've never felt such a connection before, the passion too. Can someone help shed some light to what it means? But I ve never felt what I have felt for this other guy..and still sometimes feel. Very confusing . Problem is that I feel like I know his soul. It's true that when someone touches our soul in deep connection, they could teach us a lesson. Please see special article on The 12th house synastry along with Neptune Moon Aspects for the descriptions will explain in greater detail. This is a very private house, and it holds all of our self conscious fears, most of the time we don't like this house activated especially if this is a person that will use this against us.If the Mars person is selfish and self-serving, he or she may use their knowledge of your bad habits, blind spots and personality weaknesses to manipulate or hurt you. The 12th house usually involves secret love affairs and unrequited love. He shows me he cares with actions and he has told me twice he is in love with me. Same thingsso magnetiche is plutonian, and his pluto trine my moon and sextile my venus and semisextile my sun. And I do, I don't ever want to judge or criticize him. It's as if nither of us are ready to let go fully. I, like YOU much prefer the beneficial planets:), I have someone venus conjunct my pluto in my 12th house . As if it was not enough he has moon conjunct pluto in the 5th and Venus square Pluto and Venus trine Saturn. it be TROUBLE at times, and very hard. I can relate to almost all you've been saying. With the negative aspect, the "Plutonian" personality can show jealousy and possessive tendencies toward the "Venusian" one, trying . It's probably love bordering on obsession. 12th house isnt only secrecy and I rarely see it that way 12th house synastry is beyond limits. Ya, I think we both feel a very strange draw to the other. As you said, these people were my ideal. I would love to here anyone's feedback. In the synastry between my husband and myself, my Mars and Saturn lands in his 12th house. And ever since we started communicating I have that strange feeling of telepathic connection between us.Is it possible that this 12th house influence works so strong with people who never met in person?We don't know each other in RL and I don't know how that is going to work out when we meet.My Pluto square his Sun/Mars kazimi conjunction, within 0 degrees. In all cases this is really karmic moment. One good and beautiful thing between us which feels like the work of this placement is this soul journeying thing when we are physically together(i feel like when we are close its like we spark something off in each other which creates deep peace, ecstasy and brings us to feel our own souls thru each otherit is very healing)he says i relax him instantly. I know I can read him more accurately than anyone else in his life and it scares him sometimes. I don't know. I started with an other guy, who is really good for me and is a good match. i did not have any dreams of them. I still dont know WHY that occurred . The planet Venus takes its name from the Roman goddess of love, lust, beauty and fertility. He told me he loved me so many times and then took it back, and he told me there are things he needs to work through. I dont think I can give a uniform answer as to how planets behave in the other persons 12th house. Best wishes to you darling and thank you for sharing your story :), I just read the previous 12th house story and the aspects are nearly the same as with the guy I am seeing. Hi thank you for visiting! Okay, so you're saying (as the Venus person in other people's 12th house in the past) that Aqua Venus people will make their affections quite obvious to the 12th house person? Hes very affectionate and cuddly. I feel I cannot even hide from him. His Venus is also conjunct my Pluto and we also have Venus square Venus. You might also note that he has Venus/Gemini very problematic, IMO! The only thing is boundaries, extremely psychic and and very empathetic which makes it very hard to set boundaries with a double whammy especially involving Neptune or the 12th house. As he has moved on, you must do also. This house holds many lifetimes of memories. He seemed very interested at first but the moment he felt I was getting attached he used the I am not looking for a relationship card. Especially natal charts and composite charts. Posts: 1873. Combust! Men take longer to grow up emotionally. Except when one of us is going through any kind of emotional crisis, then we're pretty physically demonstrative. Thanks for being so detailed. He brings my daughter candy and buys her ice cream and toys. the Venus person is allured into the partner's magical 12th house and held a dear captive there, but in NO way the Venus person would admit (willingly) that they have such strong feelings of love and adoration for the 12th house person. It is a great placement in synastry, of course depending on other aspects to the degree. Venus, in the 8th house in synastry, reveals a bitter relationship between partners. Just cant get past my Gemini obsessions, I guess. Romance and excitement are part of this synastry contact and it can show a relationship that feels as if it is developing too fast. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a. which is terribly disturbing for anyone who doesnt want to face things. An at one point he came to me, looked me in the eyesand asked me: " do I know you?" Only because I feel his Mars in my subconscious,yelling at me to do better and not understanding that I dont respond well to that. i also met someone else in between all this somewhere who also had venus in my 12th who i had a lot of weird occurences with. My Gemini sun is in my 12th house on the Gemini/Cancer cusp. This has been a dormant thread for some time but I couldn't help but post in my 2-bits on a relationship with 12th Venus. Its difficultto tell whats going on here. Wow . Take it like a grain of salt and more of insecurity on their behalf. Or someone is misleading someone (deliberately or otherwise). 6 Keeping the Flame Alive. Lol. And he's had a muscle twitch problem for years. I'm currently talking to someone where my Moon, Mercury, Venus and Jupiter fall into their 12th house. It doesn't necessarily have to do with verbal flattery but the presentation, image or interaction boosts the House. However, I still cannot get him out of my headlike there is no better man out there. this also sounds a bit like my own synastry with a crazy Sun/Gem Moon/Sag man. Long time away for me. This person also has natal Neptune in their 7th house and MY Neptune falls in their 7th house. He has trouble verbalizing his feelings but he said he's always been like that. Are you afraid to admit your feelings? Its a bit of a puzzle, really, and I may not be explaining it clearly, but I do see what you mean, Elsa, in mirroring tendencies. The comments here suggest that he could be affected, but I noticed that in these cases the planet person fell into the house person's 12th, but the house person's planets also fell into their intense houses (1st, 7th, 5th, etc).I have north node in his 12th, but nothing else falls into his 12th. We exist in very different worlds and it just is not convenient to tell him. I guess the best way I can describe it is as if it's partially a dream. Blessings come in MANY modes and appearances! That 12th house is a tricky one, and both charts would be helpful in sorting through all that. This is the 1st time I've ever felt like I've met my other half.. my soulmate. Registered: May 2009. posted June 11, 2013 02:39 PM. Hi GeminiRising! and NO MORE 12TH HOUSE PARTNERS FOR ME!! Me and my fianc has this. Someone help Ive done so much research on this but I was with this guy for like a year and then he ghosted me, disappeared deleted all social media, but I still dream about him and think about him frequently and its been 3 years. Venus conjunct Venus is really good, you will like many of the same things and go about love a similar way. There are other harsh aspects between our charts, but overall the more connective and important synastry points overrule the bad. has Sun conjunct Saturn, they natrually have a hard time showing their affections and are very fatherly, 12th house gives you a very spiritual feeling almost like they could be your soulmate, it can be pretty intense ad consuming so if your not very spiritual/aware of yourself or in a good place in life, you might have a hard time feeling this energy or wanting to accept it, its different, its not so much lustful, its just friggin beautiful, you wanna make love to that person and cuddle them, i also have an empty 12th housei could love this energy so much possibly because aqua venuses that land there most of time trine my moon.i feel like if someones planets fall in 12th AND also aspect sun/moon/asc, youll be able to accept and recieve this awesome energy more. I act so stupid around him and he makes it hard for me to think properly at all. Uck. ouch ouch! i dont know what we were meant to learn from each other but i admire them both.with both of these people , we understood each other really well and there was a connection. inscryption cards. even when its painful between us this pull makes me want to continue with him so I did not want him to feel my pain yet he could and tried to finish things cos of itbut then we couldnt seem to leave them for more than 3 days anyway, Yep not sure what to call it a relationship, love,, obsession, infatuation, One good and beautiful thing between us which feels like the work of this placement is this soul journeying thing when we are physically together(i feel like when we are close its like we spark something off in each other which creates deep peace, ecstasy and brings us to feel our own souls thru each otherit is very healing)he says i relax him instantly. You are BLESSED!! but I must admit they FASCINATE me!! Will this ever end!?!?? Ouch!We do not see clearly, we imagine things differently than they are, we trust, we assume, we are not working with facts but what we want to believe and feelings. This is because there are endless ways these things can play. Long story short I am finally over MY 12th House love for many of the reasons posted by Morag. I don't expect him to pour his heart out every second. We are from different countries. It lasted for a year and we functioned well in the one-on-one, but had trouble integrating it with our lives. Glad that its OVER!! Lifelong, apparently Dad was a Sun/Gemini, Mom was a Sun/Scorpio the WORST connective relationship ever! This could be the unconditional kind of love people look for, its about whether or not you can handle it. If neither one has any issues like these then the relationship does not need to take on such a heavy role and can then be about many of the positive aspects of this house. The 12th house is about secrets, fears, the subconscious, criminal activity, spirituality, ghosts, dreams, meditation, retreat, solitude, imprisonment, museums, hospitals, institutions, merging, imagination, the intangible, secrets, and the ways that you sabotage yourself. Now i know why. like a Gemini (no offense meant) they are both good and evil, but THEIR Evil Twin often does the acting out. iRecently i have met a guy in my office whose north node conjuct my 12th house where is my moon and mars. My ex-12th Houser has Venus/Cancer which made it difficult for him to open up, unless it was totally on HIS terms. This house offers the opportunity to discover these things so we can let them go and live a life with less baggage and more happiness. As somebody with a 10th house stellium, including Mars, Moon, & Venus with Aries on the midheavenif somebody fails to openly display their feelings for me, Im gone. And I discovered that I had a stellium of Sun, mars, Mercury and venus in his twelfth house, while his planets sun, moon, venus, mars, jupiter, neptune where all in my seventh house.His AC opposite's my venus.Our Sun Mutually Aspects Pluto aswell as Moon Mutually Aspects Mars. To the point it's hard to explain to others especially because we're no longer together. The twelfth house by its nature is diffuse and undefined. I am not saying there is not a spiritual/psychic or unconscious connection but don't assume he has other feelings than what he has clearly said. They may also help you feel secure and confident when they are around. Knowflake. The 12th house has a reputation for being connected with the hidden and unseen realms that operate behind the scenes in our lives. Negatively, the planet person can use any of these fears as a way to control them, manipulate them or to use against them in some way. So, it's painful when such love is not returned, like part of me is out there without a chance of getting it back.Lilly, Oh my.what a 12th house story:) this house leaves a deep imprint and we are often left with longings for what could have been. Sent 5 times a week. SPOOKY!! I would also like to know more about 12th house synastry, as I have my venus, mars and jupiter in someone's 12th house (he has no planets in there). The descriptions of 12th house Venus in synastry always ring true for me, but I'm always the house person, so it totally sucks being so affected by someone who hides their feelings. Tabitha has Venus in 12th House Pisces. I've actually read that in terms of unrequited love, the Venus person tends to love the 12th house person, but the house person can't return the love because the Venus person doesn't express their love clearly when in the 12th, and that love isn't recognized in order to to be returned. I would even go so far to say that they may be SPs (sociopaths); these people seem to have a DEVIL deep inside of them . I still dream about them and I wonder if I bother them in their dreams toolol, I have had a short lived adventure with a man back in 2013. I guess some things are just not meant to be. How do you think it would play out his Mars in 12th conjunct my Ascendant???. My Pluto sextiles his Moon and Venus and opposes his NN. He was a cancer rising, Scorpio moon, sun in Gemini in the 12th. If he has Moon/Cancer, just know that you are dealing with an emotional and sensitive soul, which of course will make him insecure in his dealings with you. All of the guys whom I'm involved above have stellium especially benefic planets in my 12th house. He told you that he is not in love with you. Im sorry you went through that. I don't know if I am able to, honestly.This really feels like karmic bond. game vault 999 login; extreme double anal; asian school girl porn; karma x nagisa story; jamf enable screen sharing; myq device is currently not in provisioning mode His acts of ghosting you and shutting you down via social media makes me think that he might also be a tad sociopathic thats a common trait. just keep on going in the OPPOSITE direction away from me as FAR AS YOU CAN!! But I didn't consider him anymore. There are two zodiac signs associated with Venus in astrology. Ill blink and its 1am. If venus is strong and well aspected than here is deep emotional and truthworthy conection. November 9, 2012 astrologyanonymous27 5 Comments. Ive cut our contact channels. http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29420, http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14081. We have other aspects in synastry that are more positive, but the Mars issues come up a lot. Sometimes because we were deluded by the other, sometimes because we deluded ourselves, or saw things that were not really there at all, we felt they were, but that's not what they were. He was and is also a very adroit liar, and even though there was very great chemistry and connectedness between us, I had to end it. But, he is the one who has been a sort of confessional from the very beginning. I have recently encountered a gentleman whose Gem Sun, Mercury, Tau Mars and North Node falls in my 12th. lol He also has his Mercury conjuncting my Sun in the 8th house and his Venus conjuncts my Venus as well as his Mars conjuncts my Mars. Hello Everyone,I can relate to alot of the post that I've read. so i point it out, and im more aware. Whats the deal? In re: to the 12th House attractions, not surprisingly, I always attract Gemini natives mostly Lunar Geminis, or those with Gemini strongly paced in their chart; i.e., Mercury, Venus or Mars. 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