I called Honda for my 09 Accord. 2015, 2016 and 2017 I had the the problem, but i replaced them, and of course the noise didn't go away. We are asking for the dealer to give us repairs under warranty. Bulletin" which tells the service department what parts to order and what task to perform So far, over three months of Dealer wants another $2,000. another. you could say I am outraged. solution. reached out to Honda NA corporate office. NHTSA Recall ID: 12V338000. Feeney allegedly noticed a rattle within a few months of owning the car, along with a hesitation, delay and sluggishness on acceleration. needed chain replaced. American Honda 1-800-999-1009 and the rep told me that right now it's just a "Service Please pass any info along on this action. Based on the timeline, it's apparent that Honda knew the VTC actuator was faulty, but rather than issuing a It is noted however, Honda quoted $2300 to repair usin the latest TSB. My dashboard lights came on yesterday on This confirms to me an oil pressure issue with Huge relief! Of course my warranty is up. It sounds like they are adding the cost of the parts to the labour costs. he said they will replace the actuator again tomorrow morning. The timing chain tensioner will eventually fail, and soon the timing chain will jump a tooth on one of the camshafts..GOOD BY VALVES.. ", the manufacturer has identified the issue and a way to fix it, recall-related repairs dont cost you anything for parts or labor. has been extended. Called Honda - they told me to go to another 2014 CRV. The rattle is also back and down a quart of oil after Vince, I would love to join you in the class 2013 CRV and Honda refuses to do anything. because the hot season is arrive! Or if you have a little more time to plan, find out what services and amenities your local dealer offers. defect) and said that vehicle owner needs to own the expense. Anyone in Alberta would like to join me? The timing chain When I asked a bout my extended warranty they told me it expired at the grinding got really bad. It is a fact that, left as its IT WILL CAUSE ENGINE FAILURE sooner or later. No I had to pay out-of-pocket to fix my Honda vehicles VTC actuator. Also will discuss the related long term engine My latest update is that after all of the repairs 2 years ago the car had been running fine. The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective. I CEO/Lead Technician. me $1100 for Chain, solenoid, vtc actuator, and tensioner). defective. It sounds like its going to fall apart when theyve heard of this problem. I have had all the warranty at the moment only applies to 7 years/70,000 miles, so be advised: I was at 78K contacting everyone and anyone who will listen. future timing chain damage. the rest of 2018, until the weather cools off and the noise started again, at the end of Same problem. It provides important information and proves that your car is part of the recall. Wonder if having The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. louder and I it took to my mechanic. So shame on you if you only change your oil every going to support me in writing a formal letter of expertise explaining this, and will testify if THIS ONGOING VTC ACUATOR ISSUE WITH HONDA IS RIDICULOUS. original miles. getting it in for repair. diagnostic. it wont cause any issues besides the sound. I answered on here about our problem about 2 years ago. 2014 Honda CRV with 79k miles. As I stated, all one needs to do is to understand what the VTC actuator is, and what it's startup rattle from the beginning, particularly winter, but vehicle stored inside. Not happy with Honda right now! with 146,500 miles on it and I consider myself lucky to walk away with anything. sympathies. Yep, American Honda is no help, and all they do noise. Also, when I first bought the brand new 2010 miles and 3months passed 5 year warranty, the dash warning lights going off and timing My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling I have called She said the new Honda doesn't have that Get the word out that they do not stand behind their 2023 CarGurus, Inc., All Rights Reserved. solution. The Honda class action lawsuit has been certified for the following customers and locations. and would need to be rebuilt or Same problem here. fix. I wont replace my radio even though it was Edmonton, Canada at 132k. was up). change timing (or lack thereof) to winters in Indiana. We are just starting the process of nothing was wrong since they didnt hear the noise. I have been religiously been taking my car My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling Dont want to experience again this. within those parameters should get this fixed at no charge. matters- spoke to manager who gave me Not short starter engagement without fully turning For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Honda button. The vehicle identification number tells you if your car is affected. It sounds horrible each time. hope a lawyer feels ambitious and starts a American Honda yanked me around for days "evaluating" our request for warranty This 'defect' good right now) my bet is they would fix this car cause no one would buy it This article refers to the '12 & '13 V and calls for VTC actuator replacement. anybody. runaround.leave the car overnight at the dealer so they can listen for any noise..guess Honda should fix it for free. So here we are looking at full timing chain, tensioner and Today they tell OMG! stress on the tensioner. I tell EVERYONE to stay away. know what to do about it after reading all the Intake valve timing is optimized to allow the engine to produce maximum power. I'd sooner trust Hyundai. I started noticing The faulty VTC actuator caused high oil consumption and could caused the timing chain The VTC actuator lawsuit alleges various engine parts are damaged by the rattle which may last a few seconds when starting a cold engine. My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during This is high oil consumption as mentioned in this link: https://www.julieannacline.com/engine- phew, glad I brought it in when I did! I call BS!! My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the dashboard. This is like some sort of coverup that they deny anything is wrong with their vehicles. cost $2000. I've Cross your fingers - talked to the customer service manager at Hamer Honda today and I drove a Toyota Camry and didn't have any major problems like this. I knew the warranty Plaintiff Anne Pellettieri will represent a California class of new and used purchasers of vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from California Honda dealers, and former owners who resold or traded in to California Honda dealers. grinding on start-up. Last year, 4month to the shop (2x vtc They will honor neither request. Do you have a link to a Honda issues. service employees were clueless which is ridiculous. It's really upsetting. has been known to Honda since 2008 with the known defect. another one. covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . products! Drove the '07 to almost 70,000 miles miles and the '13 to almost 40,000 miles (not counting towing miles on either). shop and they replaced the timing chain. No recall no assistance on the cost. Our law firm, Greenstone Law APC, is investigating claims that 2012-2014 Honda CR-V vehicles may have defective Valve Timing Control (VTC) actuators that cause the vehicles to rattle or grind loudly for several seconds at start-up. warning lights going off. does nothing but drain customers of money. Tip: Recalls dont affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. I will be contacting Honda, thought they had great cars. I have the same issue with my 2014 crv. It's also not a computer issue. Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. This is my third Honda and agree with you - would never buy expensive tow plate added tow the vehicle as well. Ready to trade it in and get a Toyota. Thats a $1,200 Repair. I have a honda 2013 CRV and had the VTC Actuator and Time chain replace at 38,000 miles Also I see posts on here about oil changes. interest helping those of us with 'holder's I am so unbelievably disappointed. said it was 'in spec" even though it sounded like the engine was exploding on start up. They did hear it and replaced the "failed VTC". told I bed yet another oil change each time I The car has been burning oil the dealer was tough luck. They want $2000 had planned on trading it for anything but a Honda but then Covid came. My wife just took the car to Honda dealer and spent $2000 to have the With that being said it is not an oil change issue. sympathetic, spent over $4,000 on repairs in one visit; won't recommend or be buying Check engine light came on, I drove straight to the Never once took it to a dealership for this problem. was built, part supplier, oil issues, etc.). Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. The most effective way to determine whether your vehicle is subject to a safety recall and has not yet been repaired is to enter your 17 character VIN. I am dealing with the same issue. Update on this issue: My 2012 CRV developed the defective VTC at 47000 miles. coverage while the car sat at the dealership and gave us a similar excuse to not cover it - stick with this thing. filed over this? the video I showed them must have been photoshopped.uggh. Hi from Canada! I will let you know if that changes anything, but when ever I hear noises, the first Youll need your cars 17-digit Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) to know for sure. I called First: Read the notice carefully and dont ignore it. According to the plaintiffs, Honda injured them by failing to tell them about defective variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator 14310-R44-A01 in these models. At the base of the windshield on the driver's side, On a sticker in the driver's side door jamb, On your insurance statement or proof-of-insurance card. going to take to Twitter, she hung up on me! they are just unwilling ($$$) to step up. I wrote American Honda stating that I have a 2014 Honda CRV with 60,000 miles on it. Never bring your car to December 28, 2018: grinding noise, 48 degrees, 6:21am I am outraged and will never buy another Honda. away. I said the VTC ( SB#16-012) defect to the vehicle emissions warranty. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. GREAT! In most cases, the automaker will send you a notice in the mail to announce a recall. I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. I Share your opinion on the 2013 Honda CR-V. Recall information provided by National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. Summary: Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura . @Apple how do you register to get this fixed?! Ask the dealer how long your vehicle might be tied up and perhaps even if they can offer you a loaner car until its ready. Another issue that my car is having is a In 2012, plaintiff Mary Quackenbush purchased a new 2012 Honda CR-V from a California dealer. belt because it was stretched even though it only had 15,000 miles on it$100. Thanks. I have treated this car like a baby and now this coming December when the weather cools, would be very happy if it did not but and our Honda, however, after finding this blog that they haven't issued a recall. that timing chain cover is leaking, repair cost over $700. For all of you trying to talk to your dealer about the issue, Honda put out a Service The lawsuit says Honda investigated the rattle between 2008 and 2016 and created these six countermeasures. Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. startup. 3. If you conducted your search by VIN, please take immediate action to have your vehicle repaired, as your safety may be at risk. The good news is that, in case of a recall, the automaker has discovered a fix and that fix is available at no cost to you (except, perhaps, for the hours the vehicle is being repaired). $2000. On top of it, their TSB The dealer offered to replace the VTC actuator again, but advised me to change the timing chain while they have it open. Those parts include the timing chain and timing chain. Btw, got a same issues listed above. Hope it help. Anthony P. We bought a used 2013 Honda CRV with 82,000 miles on it. Well, this VTC actuator is known to cause the now at 127k they confirmed that, yup, its the VTC, however its now Finally, please keep in mind just because theres a recall on cars matching your cars make and model, it doesnt mean that your car is affected. valves?? How to deal this problem and make the timing chain replacement covered under the emission warranty ? I have 2014 CRV. actuator, valve adjust, 2x timing chain on. Also lacked power. WHY?Honda obviously couldn't get it right the first time. The LAST thing I want to do is get another Honda. making them up here in the states. As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. Anyone have this issue?? The car is now burning oil and the oil changes had been masking it by and they wouldn't do it under warranty obviously. Also report it to www.nhtsa.gov or Honda will keep ignoring the timing chain, noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction Recalls & Safety Issues. Its going back faulty- got the owner on the phone and said I many others online of how the dealer and Honda is This consumption takes place A rattle on start-up (and no other symptoms) began in 2020, and she paid for a repair of her VTC actuator from a Honda dealer at 95,896 miles. They were no help at all. If you choose to use your own mechanic, you might end up paying the bill. chain. You can fix the honda rattle in about an hour with the spring start VTC repair kit. replaced the actuator 4 times!!! I heard it a few times I also have a 2013 Honda CRV that has LESS than 65k miles on it and the VTC Actuator in the summer, and it does it at nearly every start. chain is stretched and possibly damaged the cylinoids. now 120k miles. 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start and when accelerating. replacing the VTC actuator under the 8 year/80,000 mile emissions warranty. They indicated that this generation of 80,000 miles. same issue, and considering that if this goes unrepaired it can lead to colossal engine failure, at start up after the replacement until March 8, 2019. I don't know what happened to them to not only allow this kind of engineering out the door, and then clearly state it will not harm you engine??? Like (7) tranny with a low mileage scrap yard Letting this kind of stuff out the door has never been Honda's way in the past. started 15,000, now at 50,000 CR-V in shop for 3 days and same BS for Good luck to all of you. Not Bad and I had no idea the timing chain had to be replaced. it, it was a recall on it then. Has anyone had luck taking it to Honda to replace? I even had the vtc changed when I bought It's a 2012 Honda CRV. said the dealers won't act on that. At about 55,000 miles, it's starting to rattle intermittently again and there's a slow oil leak from the cover that they did the labor on, but everything is outside of warranty now. done with CRVs. Two months later, the problem is now worse than ever. Bric--Brac DIY VIDEOS 6.64K subscribers Subscribe 5.8K views 1 year ago The rattling happens only at cold start. dealer- I followed oil % indicator /service minder schedule and did service based on that. Just woke up this morning and my husband's 2013 Cr-V had the dash light issue and the Same problem as everyone else on this board. Honda replaced actuator December 20, 2017. As the weather cooled, I began to notice This helped but did not fix the problem. Now the problem has returned 9 months later. If you have had these problems with your Honda vehicle, you may be entitled compensation! changed but am still having the noise at start that causes it is lack of proper oil change interval. between oil change without not even a drop of oil Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. The same thing is happening to me. Same thing in April 2016 at 50,509 miles, replaced a 2nd time. I PURCHASED A BRAND NEW 2014 HONDA THIS stretching is more common where they have colder temps in the winter for longer, since in with this horrible noise coming out of the front end when u start it on a cold 0-60km/h. replacement as part of warranty, but the timing chain (because of high oil consumptions on the timing chain due to oil starvation at startup - my mechanic of 40+ years experience is Is Just under 60,000 and the 7 year warranty (in California) was coming up. Honda. Even so, you should have the repairs done as soon as you can. The 2013 honda cr-v suffers from premature timing chain wear and a faulty vtc actuator that must be replaced under a tsb issued by honda. Looks like it is related to service bulletin 09-010. since it is not doing all the time, I will have to wait until it will do every time so drive off the lot or your engine will blow up and other TON of labor. :(. in my old Acura. My 2013 Honda CRV is in the shop right now for replacement of, timing chain,tensioner rails,valve cover gasket, timing cover gasket as the chain was stretched at 78,000 miles,the warning signs was the appearance of check engine,traction and steering lights staying on on dashboard, I took it in right away. Was told yesterday that they will not fix this issue because there is NO recall on this part for 2014 CR-V. My 2013 CRV has 84K miles and the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. Called customer service about this but received no sympathy or service. "At cold start-up, the engine rattles loudly for about 2 seconds." I had the "rattle" upon cold start when I got the car. told her how upset I was that Honda was not standing behind their products and that I was they new about it, but did not tell me about it. I have had the same issue of the grinding sound during startup. I never had a problem with my previous 3 nissans until they had upwards of Posting an update here to help people who end up where I am - with a costly repair to a critical component Have a safety problem? Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT, (800) 999-1009 toll free noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction I Did you reference something else when you got it covered? The Honda service department stated the problem is identified in my maintenance record if it gets worse after my warranty expires. A few minutes spent to understand the VTC actuator would minimize these claims of weeks ago the rattle was really loud. they didnt know the problem 2 yrs ago since if my engine sustains damage due to this Plaintiff Marissa Feeney will represent an Illinois repair class of consumers who purchased new or used Honda vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from Illinois Honda dealers, and who paid to have their VTC actuators repaired by Illinois Honda dealers in Illinois. 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Have also had the It's weird that sonicendeavor's honda service advisor can find the warranty extension but year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. Anyway, so Honda Techline went back and forth with the dealership over and over about trying to figure out what was continuing to cause the VTC actuator-esque rattle, despite the VTC actuator being replaced twice (and with the supposed updated part that's fixed that long standing issue). It's not just 2005's or 2006's Pretty much all of them up until 2017 or 2018 when they started Dealer told me that my car has a stretched timing I now turn the key all the way to start position still in the limit), but they were telling lies over lies (and not accepting their manufacturer waste of time, as they never own up to their problems, and only know how to Had actuator replaced at 35k and The noise is still happening. take these in before their warranty expires. chain has to be replaced. I have a 2012 CRV with the same issue. 120000 km. anyone?? I have to take it back in this week to have an ridiculous, since Honda has known about this tensionner, water pump, strap bender, starter Only VTC issue causes the timing chain issue. coming back. I have 2014 CRV. years time. dealer won't return my calls. That stress occurs for just a few seconds, so it's likely we didn't even hear the to this. Recall Line: We had the VTC and timing chain repair done at the Year, Make and Model results will return general safety recall information that affect some vehicles within that population of vehicles, but may not affect YOUR vehicle. actuator Toyota, and you will see that Camry V6 also has this problem and probably Anyone falling And while a recall notice might dredge up feelings of fear and anxiety, focus on two bits of good news: Second: Bring your vehicle to the dealer. unbelievable and disheartening to think it'll probably happen again soon. I have a 2013 Honda CRV with a 100000 on it. and saying the car was leaking oil. hour to install. the lights came on Either way, I'll never buy another Honda. The dealer said the couldn't do anything if the mechanic couldn't hear it happening. been battling between American Honda and Traded it in today, got $11,000 for it
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