Shooter's Reference Load Data for .357 Maximum .357 Maximum - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Lee #1 Lyman #1 RCBS #6 Recipe Type: Pistol Bullet Weight: ALL 100 gr 110 gr 125 gr 140 gr 158 gr 165 gr 170 gr 180 gr 200 gr Powder: ALL Accurate 1680 Accurate 4100 Accurate 5744 Hodgdon CFE BLK Hodgdon H110 Hodgdon Lil'Gun Cloudbuster I have a H&R single shot .357 maximum. I take the time to dial in bores, do all throating separately forthe best co-axial alignment of the throat with the bore, and cut a few tenths of a thousandth tighter throat. Guns Rifles Harrington Richardson Rifles HARRINGTON RICHARDSON . Browning should build a plant in Utah and make them there, as they own the rights to Winchester now. Reloading is a good alternative if you can get the supplies, but from what I read things like primers are becoming harder to find as well. Over time, Sellier & Bellot expanded its product line to include rifle cartridges and smokeless powder. Classified Ad (1000+), Search Full Text of Listings The last time I was at the range with my marlin in 45-70 all eyes were on meeveryone else shooting the newest AR/AK and here comes this doofus with a lever action thumper. by Tycer Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:36 pm, Post Ive wanted one for years. If a Marlin 336 is a candidate for a successful rebarrel and chamber job in order to use 357 Maximum/Supermag cartridges. 1830 fps 100 yds 1427 fps 200 yds 1138 fps 158 gr. 11 February 2004, 13:28 dgr416 9mm brass-case FMJ is pushing .40 cents a round for the cheap stuff and I dont see the price dropping anytime soon. It is easy to load moderately for closer range shots and lighter recoil. There is an issue in how the hammer and bolt are aligned. Because many states have recently enacted hunting laws that allow for straight-case centerfire cartridges, in addition to the previous shotgun slugs only. HINT: Academy has Henry Steel Big Boys in stock today, July 29th, for $730. marcJ (author) from Mid-MO on July 21, 2015: After becoming accustomed to the cartridge and it's range of uses, I too couldn't believe it never caught on commercially. You can find ammo, and buy it if you can afford it. That Blackhawk in .357 Maximum was a very short lived gun. twist: 1:18.75"; trim length: 1.285"; primer: Winchester SPM; bullet diam. It shoots deadly accurate and has amazingly smooth trigger action. Since there is very little commercial availability for the .357 Rem. I use regular .38 Special/.357 Magnum dies to load my .357 Maximum ammo. My one friend was shooting 158jsp out of his as they shot very well. It list 357 Max data for Jacketed and Cast bullets from all the major players. It can really thump that shoulder. A couple of decades ago, I had a New England, top-break, single-shot rifle chambered in .357 maximum with naught but iron sights. Great rifle and never have had an issue, shooting with 8 grains of unique with 225 grn semi wadcutters. This means that hunters are able to control the firearm much better, making more accurate and effective shots. Cartridge is a mite better now than 3 years ago, IMO. Then you wont be caught short. There is a lot of muzzle flash with the Maximum. Khalil, Ive got one in .327 Fed Mag and Im here to tell you IT IS SWEET!! The .357 Max will out perform the .350 Legend except in one area - rimless. It might not be a good reason but thats not what was asked. $2.92. . https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-rossi-model-92-lever-action-45-colt/, Also not a .357, but a stunning Henry: It's my personal opinion that the flame cutting on the revolvers chambered in this cartridge gave it a bad rep. The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. Lots of these 'oddball' wildcats and so on can be found on, http://shootingwithhobie.blogspot.com/2 rguns.html, http://drcfirearmsoutdoors.businesscata tion-rifle, http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/files/fw y_2012.pdf, It is currently Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:00 am. The 1892 was one of Winchesters rifles designed by John Browning. |regenC|MC Set || Li Mc HIT || || LP Mc HIT ||, Antique (Pre-1899) Rifles - Flintlock Misc, Antique (Pre-1899) Rifles - Matchlock/Wheellock Misc, Century Arms International (CAI) - Rifles, Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Rifles (perc), Winchester Rifles - Modern Bolt/Auto/Single, Winchester Rifles - Pre-1899 Bolt/Single Shot, Century Arms International (CAI) - Pistols, Colt Automatic Pistols (.25, .32, & .380 cal), Colt Single Action Revolvers - Modern (22 Cal. I have not seen a 357 max levergun but, I have a Marlin 336 that is chambered in 375 Supermag. I will admit to some bias my first handgun was a S&W Model 19 and, for many years, it was my only handgun. I would think this problem could be cured by a visit to a dependable smith. I use handguns for everyday carry. by groschen1936 Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:29 pm, Post At only 6 lbs, it can easily be carried in the handwhich you have to do since it lacks sling studs. Thanks for your replies. We ballistics types all know sad stories about cartridges that showed great potential but failed shortly after leaving the launch pad. I'd bet you well over 90 percent of all IHMSA ammo was loaded on the shooter's bench. If I didnt have to deal with CAs onerous gun registration laws, Id otherwise be glad to offer someone one of my Glock/AR sets for a .357 Mag revolver + rifle. Last time I went hunting. Trust me. Caliber: .357 MAG/ .38 Special Capacity: 10+1 Barrel Length: 18 Barrel Type: Octagon Blued Steel Rate of Twist: 1:16 Overall Length: 35.5 Receiver Material: CaseHardened Steel Rear Sight: Buckhorn Front Sight: Blade Stock Material: Walnut Weight: 7.4 lbs. Im still waiting for someone to make a 357 in. I specialize in Thompson Center barrels but also rechamber CVA, H&R, and the new Henry single shots in .357 Magnum to .357 Maximum, .350 Legend, and a number of other .35 caliber cartridges such as .35 Remington and .358/.356 Winchester. (Winchester 94) and .22lr (Marlin 39A x2) with various accompanying sidearms. I might have read your post incorrectly but I live in occupied Ca and I have a Rossi 92 (1892 clone) and a Taurus 605 both in .38sp/.357. I would accept the beating and get a .44 if I did. Slower burning powders will enjoy a longer barrel more than faster burning powders. In 357 max 24" Douglas premium barrel 1in16 twist shoots 180 pointed flat point over 4227 with CCI 450 primer .7 inches at 100 don't have to worry about resale I'll keep this one. The Speer Hot Cor 180 soft point shoots lights out and velocities are over 2200 fps. can anyone suggest a competent gunsmith? Max chambering. Send your barrel or barrel with forend attached for chamber work. Low supplies and very high demand. $1,379.99. by Old Ironsights Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:43 pm, Post So when they become available, people on this blog will be talking about them. Barrel shoots Hornady 180 grain XTPs very well. The rifle shot better after reaming that it did before. Although some may not find this particular gun relevant, I think there are lots of pluses. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-marlin-1894c-357-magnum/, The review after Wild West Guns rescued it: The 30A is a Marlin 336 for 70% off.). Winchester Firearms 1873 Deluxe Sporting 357 Mag / 38 Spl Lever-Action Rifle with Color Case Hardene. No joke. 38 Special ammo is cheap and easy to reload for plinking and target practice. 317 1 Image (s) Ruger Blackhawk .357 Maximum, 1983, 10.5-inch, great bore, 95%, layaway Gun #: 945177475 Seller: Sportsmans Legacy GA Sales: 739 $1,750.00 Full Details 1 Image (s) ROSSI R-92 LEVER RIFLE .357 MAGNUM Gun #: 942851574 Seller: Alpha Omega Services LLC $948.60 In the case of multiple buyers for one item, customers will be given 24 hours to complete a transaction, after which firearms will be made available to the next buyer. The more the merrier. Id bet the old timers that rode the wild and woolly west would have liked the magnum in a rifle. I am sure I am not the only one that is open to it but finds that it is not possible right now. But I take your point that a rifle can be usefuland fun. by Hobie Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:35 am, Post You can also get your lever action fix without breaking the bank on ammunition .357 Remington is cheaper than .30-30 and without breaking your shoulder, as a .45-70 will make you black rifle boys soil yourselves and cry for your mommas. We are not currently living in such times, when even steel-cased Russian 9mm is sold off the shelves at ridiculous markups. What would be the right bullet? As a recap on hand loads, I would suggest that anyone wishing to hunt with the .357 rifle should . Use only MAGNUM Rifle primers in .357 Maximum loads. Considering that there are no problems with this cartridge in single-shot pistols and rifles, it is unfortunate that the revolver problems sullied the reputation of an otherwise fine cartridge. Wow, so many new posts on the 357 Mag rifles. Lube is easily made from beeswax and chassis grease. Also, those hotter loaded ammunitions usually over boast about their velocity. Larger game such as elk or black bear warrant a more substantial cartridge and hunting game on the open plains of the West requires more power and a flatter trajectory. Optimize the potentials of the .357 MAGnum by long rethroating the factory chamber. It is such a joy to shoot! A hollow-point 357 magnum bullet combines maximum weight retention and terminal expansion to provide threat-stopping power . Even though it was flawed engineering, it was the cartridge that suffered. If you use 158-grain bullets on game, I highly recommend softpoints over hollowpoints. ), Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Pistols (flint), Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Pistols (perc), United States Patent Firearms Revolvers/Pistols, Century Arms International (CAI) - Shotguns. The availability of molds ranging from 180 to 250 grains in both gascheck and plain-base bullets, reasonable recoil, rimmed for headspace, larger bullet to touch the next ring, there are advantages. by awp101 Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:23 pm, Post Factory throats are more like a forcing cone, done to keep pressures down, does zero for accuracy. Do you have a case length limitation in your state for a straight wall case? Buy 357 Maximum Brass Pistol Cases 95pcs Mixed Brass 357 Max: GunBroker is the largest seller of Reloading Supplies Ammunition Reloading All: 974082394. . Factory .357 Maximum ammo is no longer sold by the big manufacturers, but the folks at Starline offer new brass cases for reloaders. Check out ballisticsbytheinch.com/2011graphs+/223ME.html and ballisticsbytheinch.com/2011graphs+/223ME.html. We cover the 357 MaximumAll you need to know about the 357 Remington Maximum! They can. Joseph Von Benedikt shows his custom 500 and how well it shoots. The three taped holes were 20.0 gr. It brings the 38+p up to mid-range 357 revolver ballistics (~1250). Make sure to watch till the end. The Casull is way shorter than the Max and ~the same OAL as the 360 DW. Then came panic buying of guns and ammo due to social unrest, and of course its a an election year. While initially offered in .44-40, .32-20 and .38-40 (and discontinued for some time) a new version emerged in 2013 chambered for .357 Magnum/.38 Spl and a hammer block safety for safe carry. has the energy and accuracy needed for 200 meter silhouette shooting. Included with the barrel is a stainless steel MGM scope base and stainless steel Burris Z Rings. I now have the Ruger gp100-7. Own Stock. Extremely fun to shoot makes them relevant. Not quite as fast but a staple item is 296/110 with 23 gr. [2] Shortly thereafter, Dan Wesson Firearms and Thompson/Center Arms introduced firearms in this cartridge. If you want a short-action levergun with similar ballistics, consider: I shoot 38 short. The .357 Magnum round is pushed to greater ballistic performance (add about another 600 fps and another 500 ft-lbs of energy, give or take) as well as a wealth of ammunition choices. The topstrap cutting kept on but eventually stopped. .38-40. Maybe Ill be in a position to reload once I retire in 25 or so years but by then Ill probably have sold everything and moved back overseas so it wont be an issue. I just picked up a Ruger #1 CHP 357mag that will be going to the gun smyth next week to have the chamber stretched to da Max. And, re getting it looked at, yes; thing is, there arent too many smiths in my area who are comfortable working on lever-actions (and the ones that are, I dont trust). Web the.357 maximum was an effort to give you.357 magnum muzzle velocity at 200 meters. I make do with a 336 Marlin in .35 Rem. Sorry, there are no results in your area. Me personally I will gladly take an 1892 or 1894 in .357 instead of a black rifle.. Its been gaining more momentum than originally expected. That keeps spent brass out of the eye of the user and today, allowing for easy mounting of a scope. Whats different about the pre-lawyer ones? Just, reading the article reminded me about it. #17. lets say it was well used and not maintained. by Hobie Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:55 pm, Post Accurate Arms, Hercules, Hodgdon, Hornady, IMR, Lyman, Nosler, RCBS, Sierra and Speer. It didn't quite make it, but still knocked the steel rams down. Chiefs Special, 6 Python and Henry in 357. Among their improvements was a revision to the receiver for their model of 1894. . In the early 1980s, the hottest thing going for competitive handgunners was IHMSA. Get one batch of 360 brass from Starline for ammo to be loaded hot. Getting old aint easy. Reloading has nothing to do with it.. And, I AM a Vietnam in-country veteran, Gomer. Last one I owned was an 1889 Marlin in .44-40. 357 Magnum Rifle M.V. Perfect. They tried fixing it with a (I think it was either titanium or stainless steel insert) but the Jeanie was already out of the bottle and they were dropped. The .357 Maximum is a stretched .357 Magnum case; its about 0.315 inch longer than its parent. I might have to take that to the range next time and see what happens. Sellier, who established the company in Prague in 1825 and began manufacturing percussion caps for use in muskets and rifles. But WHATEVER YOU DO, dont use FMJ for self defense. rounds much more than the .22s. Obviously, a longer cartridge had increased powder capacity and greater velocity potential. So it partly the pandemic, and partly the Presidential election, and then the riots in major cities across the USA. Given its performance for me in those cases it seems it would make an excellent powder for use in the 357 in rifles. I would love to have a new Henry Big Boy X in 357 Magnum.. A World Record Attempt and everyone is out at the range shooting and practicing. It was even out of warranty and they took care of it no charge. Wear issues in revolvers appeared early. As long as components are available, I can handload for it. .30-30 is just a little unpleasant in it due to the light weight and stock. I know its not the answer you want, but it gets you to the same place. The 92 is a round-barrel model, with the metal bits in blued steel and the furniture in black walnut. Its just not special enough to me for my wallet to cough up the bucks. My main load was Winchester 357 Silvertips. Savage made a small number of their model 24 Over/Under combination rifles with a .357 Rem. Primos Jelly Head Choke Tube Maximum Supertight Remington 20 Ga. Primos Jelly Head Choke Tube Maximum Supertight Remington 12 Ga. Primos Jelly Head Choke Tube Maximum Benelli-beretta 12 Ga. Uberti 1873 Cattleman NM Steel 7 1/2" .357 Mag with Retractable firing pin (356550), Taylor's & Co 1892 Alaskan Black Takedown 16" Lever Action 357 Mag - NIB, 200 Round Case Underwood Ammunition .38 Special 100gr. They should come from the factory that way. Your buddys Italian .357 was probably a Chiappa. Walther's new Performance Duty Pistol is ready for both concealed carry and conventional service situations. . After the hunts are over is the best time to send barrels in for customizing! Those Remlins had some serious issues, and are the least desirable models of all Marlin 94s. You can throw the entire reloading setup (minus powder and primers and bullets) into a cargo pocket. Within a few weeks, the company got so many complaints, they halted production and never resumed. About the only .357 or .38 spl ammo available now is the pricey 30-bucks-for-a-box-of-20 defensive loads. It is a smaller diameter bullet with a high velocity, which makes it penetrate well during hunting. I can recall a conversation with John Taffin, a fellow gunwriter of deserved great reputation. https://www.rincolnia.com/images/Public/38SPL_SUPP.mp4. Finding component will likely be tough though. by bgmkithaca Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:36 am, Post And has since been dropped by everyone except TC.. A number of employees punched these rifles out to .357 Maximum and were very happy with the field results. I cant go the range without people coming over to try it out. barrel and (2) additional 12rd magazines. Til inauguration day and beyond, demand will likely increase. But I also have lever rifles in pistol calibers of 357 and 45 colt. A Dan Wesson revolver in that caliber based on the heavy duty Dan Wesson 44 Mag frame was offered. those .357s out of a 20 inch barrel will just bounce off the bad guys chest, I tell ya!!!!!!! The option for a MAG chamber lets you load published .357 MAXimum loads in the MAGnum case: Henry wisely chose the old, original closed breech barrel chamber with a very short forcing cone, as opposed to the current overly long forcing cone chamber that is essentially the same as a "shot out" barrel used by nearly all other manfacturers. new No sales CA - NY - know your state laws! Remington and Ruger eventually . or, H&R BARREL ONLY and $150 check or money order. .357 Maximum loaded with Our 200g Hollow Point gas checked to produce zero leading even at full speed. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. IMPORTANT NOTE: THROAT LENGTHS IN CUSTOM BARRELS VARY. I had only seen photos (prints?) The .357 Maximum is a "stretched" .357 Magnum case; it's about 0.315 inch longer than its parent. It may not display this or other websites correctly. But alas. MGM's .357 Maximum chamber has an excellent .358" diameter cylindrical throat, stepped down to .357" far, far superior to factory forcing cone chambers, and very similar to my throating. I REALLY wish Mossberg would make that hideous SPX Tactical in .357. Although a crimp is not required for a single-shot firearm, I crimp anyway. Forgot to add. I have one, and they are very nice, but spendy, and very hard to come by. and especially their 180 gr. Save your brass and reload. Pic is 5 shots with 21.0 gr, 3 of the 5 in 3/4" but all 5 is 1.5". The most common include: Ruger Blackhawk Dan Wesson Model 40 Remington manufactured this impressive cartridge, and still produces new brass for handloaders on occasion. Back in 05, I bought an Interarms marked Rossi model 92SR off of the used rack at a LGS for $200. I have a MGM barrel 24" ProHunter Contour 1:14 twist which allows me to shoot 180 grain bullets and above extremely well. But what if we wanted the right bullet for the occasional hyena, baboon, wallaby or racoon, say a 180-220 grain soft bullet propelled along at about 1200 feet per second? Indeed. Location. The MAGnum case with the bullet seated out holds exactly the same charge weights as factory .350 Legend ammo, 21 to 23 gr.! The furniture is high grade walnut, and the Deluxe Sporting model also features a 24-inch half octagon barrel and half rounded. Based on the serial number it looked like it was made this year. Features Sig Hard casing (2) Additonal 12 Round mag European American Armory, Windicator, Medium Frame, 357 Magnum, 4" Barrel, Steel Frame, Nickel Finish, Rubber Grips, Fixed Sights, 6Rd. For complete guns, call Kurt Bellm at 970 433 9525. Im a wee bit envious. We show you how. You can even shoot .38 Special for some of the easiest long gun plinking youll ever do. This beefed up, elongated .357 Magnum has also been chambered in Dan Wesson revolvers as well as several single shot rifles and pistols including the T/C Contender. My findings are three of us used 357 mag out of 2 Rossi lever at 20 inch and one Marlin with 16.25 to hunt blacktails and elk. Nosler, and Speer reloading manuals all recommend the use of rifle (rather than pistol) primers due to the high operating pressure of the .357 Maximum. Do the same during Deer Season, and all the critters have suddenly developed a deep phobia of open meadows you can see from far off. Cheap factory 158gr LRN is subsonic and stupid quiet for those that are complete hereticslike meand suppress their levers. by groschen1936 Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:49 pm, Post Thats info that will come in handy. (I bought a Glenfield 30A at a gunshow for $200 about 5 years ago.
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