Not sure of your experience level , ya need to get some manuals and study up the bullet weights your gonna shoot. their 158 grain bullets to a MV of 1151 fps, and 15.5 grains of H110 Lets cut to the chase. A shooter using the .357 must limit himself to broad-side shots on deer. If I was going to use W231 in the .357 mag with 158gr lead bullets I'd keep the load below Speers 5.4gr max and and less than 1,000 fps with soflt swagged or cast bullets. It is just a guide and the reason you should start under these charges and work up. The firearm hobby is a broad one, with many subdivisions of interest and activity. For any loads over 900 FPS, I suggest using a jacketed bullet. Rhode Island Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: of TrailBoss), (Note H110 & W296 are the same as of 2008 as is HP-38 & W231), (IMR 4227 is same as H-4227 if made in Australia), (bullets seated deeper = higher pressures) (I dont recommend lead at over 900 I am used to lighter bullets for 38 SC and 9 Major but I see most of the people use heavier bullets in .357? I dont worry about the power factor much because CAS threshold is so low, its not worth the tiny savings in recoil against having to compensate for a two inch high point of impact. )(2009 Note: Some of these loads are from 1996 and in the passing years the powder companies have reduced their maximum loads particularly ones that have been around a long time like Unique. vtducrider said: Not looking for full power 357mag loads. While the revolver divisions of IPSC and IDPA are dwindling in participation numbers, theyre extremely rewarding to focus on. For most of my big-bore sixgun loads I use straight wheelweights for loads under 1,100 fps; however, with the smaller diameter .357 Magnum bullets I prefer a harder alloy and normally mix lead and type metal in equal amounts. My second choice for light loads would be Winchester 231 or Hodgdon HP-38 which are the same powder. a slower burning powder, I suggest H-4227, LilGun, W-296,2400, HS6 or No. Note: Hodgdon as of 2009 controls IMR and Winchester Powders. AA#9 and a few others in the same burn rate range are . Reloading Scale, Powder Scale for Reloading, 1500 Grains X 0.1 Gn, Digital Powd. Be careful my friend , regards brushunter, Gregory I like IMR 4227 .Heavy Grain's but I like the way it sends my 158 grers flyhere's a recipe for 38 spl and 357 mag. with bullets weighing from 125-158 grains. This is super-low recoiling, and in a relatively heavy gun like a S&W 686, you may find shorter split times than the autoloader shooters. HP38 is probably as fast as I would go, but in my case, 10.1 grs. Some of the components John uses for the .357 Magnum for leverguns. bullets to a MV of 1335 fps, and 17.5 grains of 2400 will drive the (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. John said in 1983, All in all, I wound up this research project considerably more impressed with the .357 Magnum as a rifle cartridge than I expected to be when I started out the little pistol round can deliver the goods in a rifle and more importantly, provide an awful lot of shooting fun per penny in the process. They felt is was a dirty powder and so all your cartridges would . I use both bullseye and 231 for 38 special. Also 231, which is a completely different type of powder and meters better. Any brand-Small Pistol (Magnum) Details. Contest open to U.S. residents only. I'm looking for a really strong suggestion for two different loads. I need to pick up projectiles for 38 and 357 for a 357 Ruger Revolver and a Rossi lever. 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The minimum charge of WW296 (H-110 same stuff ) Winchester used to publish in the re-loading pamphlet was 14.5gr and SP Magnum primer, under a 158gr SWC. H110 and 296 require Magnum primers and like to be loaded at the upper end. Smokeless powder .38 Spl. I was surprised by how dirty and smokey my rounds were. 2205 isn't the best choice in handgun length barrels, where it shines is rifle length barrels.I use 2205 in 44 mag hunting load and 22 hornet, Ap70n in 32, 38, 9mm, 357 and 44 mag target loads. There are now 25 states with so-called Constitutional carry and Florida appears to be approaching permitless carry, which translates to more citizens S&W Set The Bar For Magnum Handgun Performance 50 Years Ago. JavaScript is disabled. "I'm not often right but I've never been wrong. 16 gauge. For .357 the old standby was 2400. My most-used load these days in a .357 Magnum sixgun is the Lyman #358156GC bullet over 14.0 grains of #2400. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. I think I'll start with Unique. Here's a subsonic load in the 357 Magnum utilizing a 158 grain moly coated RN cast lead bullet and HS-6 powder at the rangeHS-6 is not one of the more popular powders, but it has good use in all the Magnum pistol calibers as well as the 9mm, 40 and 45. In these, I like to load a 130 grain lead flat point bullet over a charge of 700X that shoots to point of aim. Arizona Game & Fish Department, State Agency: This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. It has great guns in current production, with various styles (you can even get a .357 magnum 1911!) Box 502795, San Diego, CA 92150-1377. While these arent pleasant to shoot, getting mauled is worse. of Bullseye alot as a . 1.590 in. .357 Magnum hunting loadout. These are superbly accurate at distances up to 100 yards and pushed by a stout load of 2400 powder. As others have said, Power Pistol. The 1:20 tests at 100, 200 and 300 yards proved that with a rifle length barrel, any commercially available bullet will . Gregory, just to give you an idea about Unique, I have loaded 357 mag with a 158 jacketed round to 7.5 grains using Winchester primers. When I began (starting with .38's), I picked up a pound of Hodgdon 'Universal Clays'. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. . Hornady - Critical Defense 38 Special Ammo - Most Versatile 38 Special Ammo. I'm thinking Unique, but I'm not sure. For lead bullets, Unique is great. It has shot superbly in S & W "N"-frames of 4, 5, and 6".. and also in a Marlin M1894SC .357Mag . Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. I'll load a few trips to the range worth and see how it goes. Super clean burning. Experiment and I am sure you will find something that shoots well in your gun, I have. No purchase necessary. the .357 Magnum since the middle 1960's. I've considered H110, but didn't know if it would be a good "all around" powder. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. I'm looking for the best powder to load .357. Smith & Wesson Model 586: Reviewing A .357 Revolver With Class. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, The Mismatched Model 27: A Curious Revolver, The Colt Mk III Lawman: A Forgotten Revolver, Retro Review: Smith & Wesson LadySmith Revolvers. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. Note: A full Its not exact practice, but it wont bankrupt you to shoot them weekly. It would be great if I could also use it for .44 mag and .44 special. Any suggestions? revolver barrel. A series of targets John shot with the Marlin 1894, proving the accuracy For the .357 mag I load hard cast bullets at full power (1,250 fps +/-) mostly using 2400 and AA#9. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, Altor Pistols, P.O. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM Old West 2023, PO Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. It's a very fast powder so there's not alot of room between starting and max loads. Reloading Manual shows that 13.9 grains of H110 will drive Unique is a good powder to start with. I'd be happy with 1300 or 1400. I go through a lot of Blue Dot on 357 mag and you can use it with 38 Spl as well. Here, I like to shoot a .357 magnum case loaded with a copper-plated 158 grain flat point projectile and a Bullseye charge calibrated to the gun to just make the power factor of 105. My Speer manual says that Magnum Primers need to be used with w296 and h110 has anyone loaded these powders with standard primers and if so was there any difference? The benefits of this are twofold. 7. Bianchi Speed Strips are a compact loading device for revolvers . The same thing happened 20 years later with the new .44 Magnum and the Winchester Model 1892, which had originally been chambered in .44-40. We don't want you to blow yourself or your guns up either. I have used 2400 for 357 but like it better for 44 Mag. 38/. JavaScript is disabled. Clays, Universal, HP38, HS6 and H4895 are products of Hodgdon Powders. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. No. Theres not a whole lot under the size of a deer that cant be taken using some .357 Magnum load. I love it because of how well it meters in my Dillon powder measure. You can. Like mentioned, use a magnum primer with magnum powders and do not reduce H1110/Win 296 below recommended start loads. Bullseye, 100% burnt at 2.56 inches of barrel length. I too have used Alliant 2400, it makes an excellent full/hunting load. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. Need [email protected] (866)582-4867, PO Box 1131 13800 Nicollet Blvd Burnsville, MN 55337 2023Guns.com. Raw power? Marc - accipere facile, sed sumite! gunmans right on i have used the old stand by blue dot for mag loads back when i loaded a lot of 357 mag. bullet. . Contest open to U.S. residents only. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM March 2022, P.O. Instead I recommend switching your powder load to Blue Dot and loading up a 180 grain lead bullet. It was our first magnum revolver cartridge and offered sensational velocities for that era, as it advertised a 158-grain SWC-style bullet at 1,510 feet per second (fps) from a 834-inch barrel, but was around 1,400 to 1,450 fps in most revolvers. Christian, Conservative American, Male, all three of which are currently under attack! Deployed military should use stateside address. South Dakota Game, Fish & Parks, State Agency: Bullets are .357 for jacketed and .358 for lead in diameter. For midrange loads I use Power Pistol, and for full magnum loads I use 2400. I'm old school though , been loading since mid eighties , haven't tried the newer powders on the market. Fast Pistol Powder: Accurate #2 (My Favorite) Accurate #2 is an interesting powder in that it is one of the rare "low density" spherical powders. It would (just) make major from a 6" barrel back when a 6 shot .357 could still be somewhat competitive in USPSA revolver class. New. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. personal loads where noted. Dillon Precision 14400 38 Spl 357 Mag Pistol 3 Three Die Set Carbide Brand New. . 10 gauge. I use 3.5 gr of Red Dot, and a 105 gr Lee SWC in .38 special cases for my Cowboy Action/Snub Nose Training/Plinking/New Shooter load. They are all determined experimentally. I don't have any Titegroup right now or I would try it. The difference between the 158 and 180 grain bullets on the pins is remarkable. Classic Browning Light Twelve Auto-5 Review: Busting Clays With the Old Humpback Shotgun. H110 and Win 296 is the most common magnum loads for .357 Magnum. The .357 remains the best selling of all magnum handgun cartridges and among the top 10 best selling handgun cartridges. FPS) (unless at least using a Gas Check) (with pure lead wadcutters, do not (Photo: Andy C). All entries must be received by giveaway end date. Idaho Department of Fish & Game, State Agency: The Handgun Reloading Imostly stay with gas check bullets in all .357 Magnum loads simply because they seem to shoot a lot more accurately. that can be adapted to all types of activity. That's with magnum primers. Since I started doing this seriously, Ive only bought one gun, a .308 bolt-action rifle. No soup can is safe. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. grains of H110 powder will drive the 140 grain bullet to a MV of 1323 Connecticut Department of Energy & Environmental Protection, State Agency: All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. A comparatively fast burning powder with a burn rate about the same as Winchester 231 and Alliant Red Dot. I'll be picking some up in 2 weeks. Muzzle velocity from a 4-5/8 Ruger Old Model Flat-Top are 1,050 fps and 1,150 feet per second respectively. This high energy powder provides economy in loading. HP-38. Illinois Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: I load this bullet over 13.0 grains of H110 and 12.0 grains of #2400. .357 hunting loads can be tweaked to take deer sized game and smaller. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. with 125 and 158 Gr Lead or Coated Lead Bullets. 357 Armour Piercing(no longer legal or available), 160 gr. Home Of The First Capitol Of The Confederate State, REPUBLIC OF TEXAS, DISTRICT OF ROUND ROCK. I'll expand and experiment once I fully understand what I'm doing. Not only is this excellent accuracy, it is a significant increase in muzzle velocity. I just use a minimum charge of 15gr of 296 with 158gr coated lead bullets. For plinking and target loads Hodgdon's Univeral Clay's w . (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. Ive also never loaded a factory round into my Model 13 and had it shoot to point of aim the way I want it to. Hand loading required. As most revolver cartridges fade further into obscurity every year, the .357 continues to have new life breathed into it by ammunition companies and gun manufacturers who recognize the demand for this venerable cartridge. Virginia Department of Wildlife Resources, State Agency: Life is worth living make every minute of every day count for you. Rottiejake said: I'm caught up with all my loads except .357 mag. The Hornady 158 XTP-JHP over 15.5 grains of H110 is just under 1,600 fps in the Marlin and Rossi .357 leverguns. Below, are three loaded rounds. Ive sold plenty of others, because they dont see as much use. JSP, .357 with JHP, .357 with JSP. The .357 Mag is one of the most flexible handgun rounds. Georgia Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: I can't claim to have developed these - just use them as my go to loads. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. What velocities can I safely work my Model 14 up to? All right are Reserved Reload Ammo, Reloading The .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol), 1,075 (plated, actual in 7 bbl revolver), 1,307 max (Enforcer load below is SWC + GC ), ,108 (as of 2008 HP38 & W231 are the same), 1,610 MAX a Commercial JSP load averages 1,503 fps, 1,208 Hi=1244, Lo=1179, ES=65 (good load). were measured in a 6" S&W revolver barrel using Speer cases and For large game, the Hornady FTX projectiles reign supreme. Head to the range this week with American Rifleman staff as they discuss a trim little repeater from Savage Arms that comes chambered for the .22 WMR cartridge. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. I have found these to be useful practice and Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. The aforementioned 180 grain lead bullet will give you a definite advantage, especially in bowling pin shooting, while keeping the costs controllable. loads today have a limit of 17,000 p.s.i., whereas the .357 Magnum's is 35,000. Nor with small hard bullets are you going to be leading free. It gives the same or better velocities than Hodgdon's H110 and Wichester's Win296 (which are the same powder and either would be my second choice with Herc 2400 coming in third) at about 2/3 the pressure.
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